I joined Ben Maynard and Barbara Fazekas for a rapid-fire live podcast!
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Another day, another AI miracle. But does any of it actually make money?
Recorded live at Productized 2025 in Lisbon, this Talk in Ten features the return of Rich Mironov for a grounded, funny and painfully honest chat about the real cost of AI.
Rich doesn’t sugarcoat it. The boom might be a bubble, but it’s a useful one - revealing where value actually sits and which business cases will survive once the hype fades. If you’re leading product teams through AI adoption, this episode is a reality check you’ll actually enjoy.
“Product people love process. Execs love dollars. If your roadmap conversations lack currency symbols, you’re missing the room.”
Rich breaks down what’s next when coding gets cheaper and distribution, pricing and packaging become the new bottlenecks. It’s sharp, practical and the perfect listen before your next strategy meeting.
It was great to have Rich bring his wit, clarity and that trademark dose of tough love.